THREAD CLOSED - OP Refused Settlement Offered by Ogads

[Trailblazer]

I like the fact that you're publicly posting my PRIVATE email, along with my website information on a PUBLIC forum. Make note anyone who is considering using Ogads in the future. Not only will they st**l your money, make up l**s, they will also DOX you and reveal your marketing strategies to the world.

(* Moderator's Note - private information has been redacted *)

Do you realize that your above screenshot that shows all the offers that have been receiving traffic from me now 100% disproves you full on l** that I was direct linking. I hope everyone reading this now sees it, this guy claimed I was banned for direct linking, and then posts a screen shot that shows I was sending thousands of unique to 100s of rotated offers on my smartlink.

Please, please show a screenshot of a day where only that one offer was getting traffic because I was "direct linking to it" come on SHOW IT, it DOESN'T EXSIST" I never direct linked, now you are finding different reasons to say why I was banned. This is a joke at this point.

But since you posted my website, pofheadlines.com anyone here can now go there and see for themselves that website is ANYTHING but adult. It is dating related, but ADULT? Give me a BREAK.

Now, show the CLAIMS of Tube Traffic, Pop Traffic, and all the other accusations you were making? Show it, show tube traffic, why would you make that cliam if you can't prove it? Show adult traffic, is a website that has information about headlines you can use on a dating profile considered adult? How so, is there porn, NO, is there anything explicit on it, NO.

The offers you said you ran and were only desktop when there is tons of clicks from mobile

How about you show how many smartlinks I had setup with you, around 20 or so I believe, half were getting mobile traffic, half were getting desktop traffic, what the hell is the scandal in this? Why are you dancing around again like the previous poster mentioned?

Besides doxing me, showing my SEO'd website, and revealing my email to the world, and dancing around with new crap how my traffic is bad, but yet you let it run for two months, and yet for two years ytz.com and monotizer.com pays me ON TIME EACH TIME for it what the hell have you proved here?

Like the previous posted stated, why won't you answer ANY of my questions?

Remember this

This guy has been told multiple times that this is not allowed on OG and he will be banned if he does it yet he did it any way.

SHOW ME WHERE I WAS TOLD MULTIPLE TIMES. I was told ONCE, two days before I was banned, and during which time I was running 0 traffic.

SHOW ME HOW I WAS DIRECT LINKING to smartlinks that have hundreds and hundreds of offers, SHOW HOW I WAS DIRECT LINKING!

Don't make up l**s and then evade proving them when I call you out.

 

[Trailblazer]

For starts of my evidence, here is a conversation I had with Kate Porter of ytz.com on 4/12/18 (as seen on the timestamp).

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Kate is a member on this forum, if the Admins want, they can reach out to her to verify that conversation. Infact, YTZ has been paying me on time, with no problems, for two years. They will be part of my verification that my traffic is high quality and legit.

As you can see Kate specifically says Mac Desktop Downloader is the best for my traffic, that shows my claim that my Mac Traffic is high quality and my best paying traffic.

Of course when I saw it was earning money on Ogads, on an offers that doesn't say CPC anywhere, but is called "sign up for free trial to get unlimited VPN" of course I would think my traffic is backing out, I thought the offer was converting on free trial signups.

If the offer wasn't backing out, and the advertiser got 0 downloads from it (something I still don't believe but is irrelevant if true), I am sorry, but that is not my mistake, the mistake is having that offer be put into a smartlink, and showing me earnings to it for almost two months so I can continue sending traffic to the smartlink.

You made a mistake in the way you poorly ran smartlinks, and decided to ban me instead of paying me my earnings. Why should I lose in this? I'm not the one who setup the smartlink and the way ogads works. I was deceived into thinking I am earing money and will be paid.

If you really want to come on here and make up **** **** l**s that my traffic is from tube sites, and adult traffic, this will be a PR nightmare for you after I prove its not. And I will prove it to the admins. Whoever authorized you to come on here and l*e should be fired for the damage this is going to end up doing ogads when its all said and done.

 

[ogads]

There is nothing to hide you were told not to disable the offers to single out the cpc offer in your smart link. Everything on our end shows clearly that the traffic was coming from adult/dating sites. You asked for proof so I posted it!

We run the risk of losing offers because of this. Also data of conversions and traffic are not checked daily by advertisers so the traffic you have sent before you stopped sending traffic ended up getting checked by the advertiser who contacted us and said they were not paying for your conversions.

No network will pay for LQ traffic that does not back up on the backend. All of your offers do not allow adult/dating traffic to them at all. If conversions do not back up for advertisers because of users LQ traffic and not following the rules for what traffic is allowed they simply will not paid!

Why would we ban someone if they were following the rules makes no sense to me!

 

[Trailblazer]

OK, so you won't show where I direct linked, which is your reason of why I got banned, so you admit to that being a li*. Got it.

You won't show where you warned me multiple times not to direct link, oh, oops, l*e two, Got it.

Now, a website that has headlines to use on a dating profile is considered dating/adult and I can't run traffic from it to my smartlinks. My website doesn't offer a dating service, my website only gives information on headlines to use on a dating profile. As far as adult, there is 0 ANYTHING on it considered adult.

But as everyone can see here, this guys first 3 or 4 l**s of why I was banned had 0 evidence or proof, and were proven lies, so now he's moved on to his next excuse. At this point, I am asking for mod/admin assistance in this matter because ogads will not answer my questions, or provide proof of their "direct link" ascertains, and is wildly adding a bunch of other nonsense to the conversation.

 

[ogads]

I removed the email it was posted on accident.

We told you 2x , once on skype and once on our internal messaging that you shouldnt have isolated just that offer.

Please prove where your traffic is from.. We've sent just some of the referrer data, which looks like an internal redirect on your site http://pofheadlines.com/all/yt/country/eng1/d/ -- you have most likely been buying traffic to this url internally, masking the real source (very easy to do) (you also mentioned it was type in traffic / expired domain) this is NOT an expired domain.

Now, where is your proof of where the traffic is from ?

"For the last 2 or so months I have been running my expired domain, and typein domain traffic with Ogads, this is the same traffic I have been using on YTZ.com and Monotizer.com for about 2 years now."

But you then also state its from an SEO'd website ? please....

I told you already, the advertiser didnt catch it for the first month, since i asked them, they noticed that your source ID was not backing out for the offer and asked for me to block you and told me that they wouldnt pay the last few weeks of revenue, which amounts to around $350

We also LET you know this in these two messages here

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Telling you we would check with the advertiser first before we could issue the payment to you.

If you havent had more than 1 warning on the site for what you are doing then i am sorry, its my fault or one of my staffs fault, they have assured me youve been told more than once.

The fact you raised alarm and then we checked is the reason we blocked you from the offer and didnt pay you the last months amount that you earned with your HQ MAC TRAFFIC from Type In Keywords on a dating site referral ... from an seo'd website.

Any more questions, please let me know.. i feel like ive answered them and not tangented... ive also provided more screenshots than your "traffic proof" and i also know Kate very well as we've done business together for years... she will also back me up that we are a reputable network, with our advertisers interests at heart.

 

[Graybeard]

site:__ogads.com - Google Search
remove the __ w/o it does
What rules? You hide behind Cloudfront, have a private domain registration (whois)
and your published address seems to be a mail drop
222 W. Merchandise Mart Plaza, Suite 1212 - Google Search

Seems pretty sleazy to me ...

That said, you have too many transparency issues ...

 

[ogads]

What rules? You hide behind Cloudfront, have a private domain registration (whois)
and your published address seems to be a mail drop
222 W. Merchandise Mart Plaza, Suite 1212 - Google Search

This is totally off topic.
What rules? - Ones that you adhere to when you sign up with ogads, found here:

Terms & Conditions - ogmobi

Cloudfront? We use Cloudflare - to protect against DDOS, just like many other millions of websites

22 W Merchandise Mart Plaza is a startup tech location in Chicago where our office is located.

 

[Anthony.]

My personal opinion of this thread is that the affiliate should of been told that his quality does not back out and to stop all traffic, not just ban him.

Not once have you told him that his traffic is bad quality, if that was the case he wouldn't of continued sending traffic. The offer doesn't tell him it's CPC, and if that's the best performer, any marketer knows he would cut out all of the other bad performers to keep the best one running.

I get where ogads is coming from also, where the quality isn't backing out so the advertiser won't pay. But if that was the case I think it hasn't been dealt with in a professional way. Especially if he has been running it for over 60 days, surely it should have been noticed and he should of been politely informed.

Just hitting the ban button is unprofessional with no explanations at all as to why he is banned. He should of been properly notified, and if he continued to break rules after they have been explained to him then yeah, people who don't listen when told need to be banned. But not this guy in my opinion. Not one time has he been told that what he is doing is wrong, yeah you told him "he may be banned" but why didn't you give the full reason for it so he could stop and still have the chance to be an affiliate on ogads.

Also I think some of the messages are pretty rude coming from a reputable network.

 

[Trailblazer]

I removed the email it was posted on accident.

Here is your username and email witch shows a adult/dating email of yours and also for POF adult websites on that domain

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Yet, here is a direct quote from the post where you posted my email, notice how you state you are purposely posting my email. How is this an accident, more lies from l**ngOgads.

Please prove where your traffic is from.. We've sent just some of the referrer data, which looks like an internal redirect on your site http://pofheadlines.com/all/yt/country/eng1/d/ -- you have most likely been buying traffic to this url internally, masking the real source (very easy to do) (you also mentioned it was type in traffic / expired domain) this is NOT an expired domain.

Now, where is your proof of where the traffic is from ? But you then also state its from an SEO'd website ? please....

pofheadlines.com is my SEO'd website, google it, you will see it show up on google results. The traffic on those redirects is being sent from my expired domain/type in traffic. Something I do to keep fraudsters like you who post private data on public forums from revealing my strategies to the world.

We also LET you know this in these two messages here

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Those two screen shots are OF THE EXACT SAME CONVERSATION you first linked in your first post! why don't you just post the full screenshot of that conversation? You are trying to put smoke and mirrors you've gone into desperation mode.

We told you 2x , once on skype and once on our internal messaging that you shouldnt have isolated just that offer.

Really, you mean the once in the internal message when I asked if I can direct link and you said "no I would be banned," and I said ok and didn't, and the 2nd time when you told me (in the one and only EVER skype conversation I had with you) that I was "banned for direct linking" You're so full of smoke, your purpose is to do anything to distract from not answering my questions.

Now the real question, DID I, DID I EVER ISOLATE THAT OFFER? Did I ever direct link that offer? NOOO, NO I didn't, so what are you trying to do here? Where is the proof that I direct linked it?

Let this be a lesson, Ogads will fight tooth and nail, l*e, waist hours of my time, their time, everyone reading this thread's time, just to cover up their theft. Good god, what a despicable company.

 

[Trailblazer]

Thanks @NeverGiveUp you are spot on in EVERYTHING you said except you accidentally got this part wrong

Not one time has he been told that what he is doing is wrong, yeah you told him "he may be banned" but why didn't you give the full reason for it so he could stop and still have the chance to be an affiliate on ogads.

They told me I would be banned if I direct linked, but at the time I ASKED THEM IF I COULD, I had NEVER direct linked, and after they told me I can't, I never direct linked. I was banned two days after they told me that. So I had no reason to stop, because I was never doing it in the first place and would never have done so.

 

[ogads]

The traffic on those redirects is being sent from my expired domain/type in traffic..

Please show me proof of you buying that HQ MAC DESKTOP traffic and where its from then, to end this argument. Ive sent a bunch of proofs and you are just blowing smoke and ranting, show me where you are buying it from with proof on the forum, where i posted everything publicly, you can lie to the admins and show some photoshopped pic. PROVE YOURSELF AND POST DETAILED PICS HERE.

They told me I would be banned if I direct linked, but at the time I ASKED THEM IF I COULD, I had NEVER direct linked.

You essentially direct linked when you blocked the other offers -- the details on that offer when you press "details" on ogads, specifically say not to direct link this offer (** BUT ITS FINE, YOU DIDNT KNOW.**)

This is how it went down

1) month 1, you ran traffic, we didnt notice it was only going to this one offer, got paid out fine
2) month 2, you ran traffic, i identified you were only sending traffic to this specific offer, still paid you out
3) you then get greedy, ask my manager if you can only directly link to that one offer
4) we ask the advertiser to review traffic, they say its not converted at all over those 2 months, they refuse to pay and ask me to remove your ID
5) we BAN your acc, because its a risk as we make a loss , i agree, your manager went too far to ban you, should have just removed the fraud / lq traffic on your invoice.

I agree with NeverGiveUp in the fact that a ban is too extreme, so i will do this in good faith.

1) unban your account
2) remove the leads for the HQ MAC DESKTOP traffic that didnt convert for the advertiser.
3) give you a second chance to run your traffic, but via the content locker, if its that high quality, the users will go through the locker.

Hopefully this will come to a resolve when you post your pics. (which i highly doubt you can) because it will show the true source of the traffic is LQ popads / goof traffic. so please, reply with bullet points, instead of just blowing steam on here and wasting everyones time.

 

[Anthony.]

Thanks @NeverGiveUp you are spot on in EVERYTHING you said except you accidentally got this part wrong



They told me I would be banned if I direct linked, but at the time I ASKED THEM IF I COULD, I had NEVER direct linked, and after they told me I can't, I never direct linked. I was banned two days after they told me that. So I had no reason to stop, because I was never doing it in the first place and would never have done so.

I see, well I think you've been unfairly treated, I've been given direct links in the past. (Not for CPC though ofc)

 

[Anthony.]

Please show me proof of you buying that HQ MAC DESKTOP traffic and where its from then, to end this argument. Ive sent a bunch of proofs and you are just blowing smoke and ranting, show me where you are buying it from with proof on the forum, where i posted everything publicly, you can lie to the admins and show some photoshopped pic. PROVE YOURSELF AND POST DETAILED PICS HERE.



You essentially direct linked when you blocked the other offers -- the details on that offer when you press "details" on ogads, specifically say not to direct link this offer (** BUT ITS FINE, YOU DIDNT KNOW.**)

This is how it went down

1) month 1, you ran traffic, we didnt notice it was only going to this one offer, got paid out fine
2) month 2, you ran traffic, i identified you were only sending traffic to this specific offer, still paid you out
3) you then get greedy, ask my manager if you can only directly link to that one offer
4) we ask the advertiser to review traffic, they say its not converted at all over those 2 months, they refuse to pay and ask me to remove your ID
5) we BAN your acc, because its a risk as we make a loss , i agree, your manager went too far to ban you, should have just removed the fraud / lq traffic on your invoice.

I agree with NeverGiveUp in the fact that a ban is too extreme, so i will do this in good faith.

1) unban your account
2) remove the leads for the HQ MAC DESKTOP traffic that didnt convert for the advertiser.
3) give you a second chance to run your traffic, but via the content locker, if its that high quality, the users will go through the locker.

Hopefully this will come to a resolve when you post your pics. (which i highly doubt you can) because it will show the true source of the traffic is LQ popads / goof traffic. so please, reply with bullet points, instead of just blowing steam on here and wasting everyones time.

To be fair, all offers say you can't direct link. He simply wanted to run the most converting, not realising it was cpc as it's not in the offer title.
But as I was writing the above, it came to me that eventually you would know it's cpc, because it would show 0 conversions which would arise questions as to why there is earnings with 0 conversions.

Anyhow, hopefully this gets resolved.

 

[ogads]

it came to me that eventually you would know it's cpc, because it would show 0 conversions which would arise questions as to why there is earnings with 0 conversions.

Thanks for finally realising this guy isnt telling the whole truth. He figured out it was CPC and started to scale up the "method" -- this is also why he asked dee my manager to isolate or direct ink specific offer

btw, this smartlink / usa mac cpc offer method has been going around private forums and its not the first person we've had to ban for running popads traffic to this offer... its probably the 10th person we've caught out.

Once i see proof of the traffic and where he's got it from and sent through his "clever" redirects, then i will unban. up till then i think ive proven myself as best as i can. we have thousands of people who will vouch for us as one of the best content locking networks in the industry!

 

[Trailblazer]

Please show me proof of you buying that HQ MAC DESKTOP traffic and where its from then, to end this argument.

You really think i'm dumb enough to publicly out my affiliate strategy that i've been using as a source of income for the last two years. Are you really this crazy? The admins will get my source of traffic as soon as they PM me. I will provide all the proof to them and they can decide what to do with you.

You essentially direct linked when you blocked the other offers

You mean for a smartlink with 100s or 1,000s of offers, me asking the AM to remove 8 of them that were not converting at all, and the AM doing it, mind you, not me, the AM removed 8, which left about 1000s other offers on the smartlink. That is now direct linking? Are you really trying to say this or you ran out of things to say?

1) month 1, you ran traffic, we didnt notice it was only going to this one offer, got paid out fine

Really, it was only going to this one offer? Your above screenshot that shows all the different offers my smartlink was rotating disproves you. Yep, this screenshot of yours: Imgur why don't you post a screenshot of every single day of the last two months. All the offers. I bet you won't, because it will show on NO GIVEN day did only that offer get traffic directly.

2) month 2, you ran traffic, i identified you were only sending traffic to this specific offer, still paid you out

I was sending traffic to that offer? NO NO NO, your smartlink was sending my Mac Desktop traffic to that offer, not me, your smartlink was also sending my other traffic, Windows, Mobile, etc. to the 100s of other offers on the smartlink. That's how smartlinks work!

3) give you a second chance to run your traffic, but via the content locker, if its that high quality, the users will go through the locker.

It will be a freezing cold day in hell before I ever use your network again. A freezing cold day in hell.

How about this, you pay me my money and stop wasting everyone time and digging yourself deeper into a hole. You've already done irreversible damage to your brand, when this is all done and the admins see my traffic and possibly ban you, you will not be happy.

Oh, and i'm just getting started, I will tell me story of what you did EVERYWHERE on the internet. EVERYWHERE!

 

[game333]

@Trailblazer would you still like to continue business with @ogads since he offered you a 2nd chance?

 

[Trailblazer]

But as I was writing the above, it came to me that eventually you would know it's cpc, because it would show 0 conversions which would arise questions as to why there is earnings with 0 conversions.

Anyhow, hopefully this gets resolved.

I had no idea how their system was setup, how their tracking worked, I promise you I had no idea it was a cpc offer, with smartlink you typically set them and forget them. I am not the one who added the cpc offer to the smartlink and redirected all relevant traffic to it. THEY DID. Why should I be punished for what they did?

 

[Anthony.]

I had no idea how their system was setup, how their tracking worked, I promise you I had no idea it was a cpc offer, with smartlink you typically set them and forget them. I am not the one who added the cpc offer to the smartlink and redirected all relevant traffic to it. THEY DID. Why should I be punished for what they did?

I get that, but surely you should of been suspicious when you seen $255 revenue but 0 conversions?

 

[Trailblazer]

He figured out it was CPC and started to scale up the "method" -- this is also why he asked dee my manager to isolate or direct ink specific offer

If I scaled up the method, why would I then need to ask Dee to set it up as direct linking, I thought I was already direct linking right? Why would I then ask Dee if I am allowed to do it if I had already been doing it. I got banned 2 days after asking him, you mean to say I direct linked for 2 days? show those days, you can't, because it didn't happen. I sent 0 traffic to Ogads after the smartlinks went down.

and started to scale up the "method"

Show one once of proof that I scaled up anything, that I direct linked this offer, show one screen shot of this ever happening. You keep repeating the same lie over and over with no evidence. You have access to everyday's stats. POST THEM ALL HERE.

btw, this smartlink / usa mac cpc offer method has been going around private forums and its not the first person we've had to ban for running popads traffic to this offer... its probably the 10th person we've caught out.

What the hell are you talking about now, what method, what the hell could be shared on "private forums" that I did, what is the trick that I did? All I did was send traffic to your F**king smartlink. Why are you making up wild bullshit. Show these "forums", show anything you're claiming.

You are not allowed to make up wild l**s and provide ZEEEERO evidence of your l**s. Show 1 thread anywhere that there is a private forum discussing a Mac Destkop Smartlink Method of ANY Sort, ANYWHERE online and I will donate all my money to Ogads, close this complaint, and leave the internet.

I can also claim with no evidence there are private forums where CPAs discuss how to s**m affiliates and st**l there money. You really have sunken to a new an pathetic low.

I will show the source of my traffic to the admins @ogads you will not touch any of my private info with a 10ft poll. You are a proven doxer, l**r, and th**f.

 

[Trailblazer]

I get that, but surely you should of been suspicious when you seen $255 revenue but 0 conversions?

I honestly thought they were not being tracked correctly, I had no idea such a thing as a CPC offer existed in a smartlink. It never crossed my mind, I never dealt with it with ytz.com smartlinks or monotizer.com smartlinks. Why was the offer placed there, and why was it called a "trial offer" I thought it was converting on trials.

 

[game333]

I had no idea how their system was setup, how their tracking worked, I promise you I had no idea it was a cpc offer, with smartlink you typically set them and forget them. I am not the one who added the cpc offer to the smartlink and redirected all relevant traffic to it. THEY DID. Why should I be punished for what they did?

I found that skeptical too. Your AM told you are not suppose to direct link to the offer, if you ask for it you risk your account from banning. So it's a stop here, but why should a ban be executed?

After all @ogads offer you a second chance, do you still want to continue business with them.