THREAD CLOSED - OP Refused Settlement Offered by Ogads

[ogads]

You really think i'm dumb enough to publicly out my own method that i've been using as a source of income for the last two years. Are you really this crazy? The admins will get my source of traffic as soon as they PM me. I will provide all the proof to them and they can decide what to do with you.

Sure, post proof to them, they will send to me and i will review

asking the AM to remove 8 of them that were not converting at all, and the AM doing it, mind you, not me, the AM removed 8, which left about 100 other offers on the smartlink. That is now direct linking? Are you really trying to say this or you ran out of things to say?

you asked him to remove the USA ones as soon as you realised that the offer was a cpc... cmon man, you are entirely caught out. we are going in circles here.

How about this, you pay me my money and stop wasting everyone time

I refuse to pay you for something i've been reversed on by an advertiser, post on forums, i will happily link them back to this thread and i will also contact YTZ and find out how much your HQ MAC TRAFFIC is making you.. ive been 100% honest and backed up all my claims with solid proof, you are beating around posting the real proof, changed your "traffic source" two times and still blowing smoke and being threatening.

I will unban your account once i see proof, but chances are we wont see any valid proof and you will continue to beat around the truth -- im sorry we banned you, we should just have reversed the payment and this might not have been an issue, you've already been offered the chance to be un-banned and youve said not a chance in hell. we owe you around $4-5 for the non cpc traffic that hasnt been reversed and i will be happy to pay this in full to you!

- Ben

 

[Graybeard]

ok Cloudflare --front LOL get my drift?

that said
" We will pay Affiliate for each Qualified Action (the "Commission"). A "Qualified Action" means an individual person who (i) accesses the Program Web Site via the Link, where the Link is the last link to the Program Web Site, (ii) is not a computer generated user, such as a robot, spider, computer script or other automated, artificial or fraudulent method to appear like an individual, real live person, (iii) is not using pre-populated fields (iv) completes all of the information required for such action within the time period allowed by ogmobi and (v) is not later determined by ogmobi to be fraudulent, incomplete, unqualified or a duplicate.

Terms & Conditions - ogmobi

Restricted Traffic Sources
Promoting on the Close 5 app and Ebay is not allowed. Additionally promoting any fake content, adult, porn, or viruses is not allowed. Disobeying these rules will result in termination of your account and loss of earnings.

Publisher must receive approval for each website or media outlet used in conjunction with OGMobi tools and campaigns.

OGMobi reserves the right to terminate any Publisher's relationship with the OGMobi Network at any time, with or without cause "

I guess you will have to sue them and serve your summons at their *startup office*

The Resident Agent is listed as an attorney's name.
CORP/LLC - CERTIFICATE OF GOOD STANDING


My take on this is that your contract is with a dissolved LLC. Ogads is not a corp or LLC in the Illinois Database (I checked for a successor registration). There is a link to be had with the LLC Managers of record to be had -- I am not going to post a screenshot of it -- even though it is a published public record.

Learn from this

 

[Trailblazer]

you asked him to remove the USA ones as soon as you realised that the offer was a cpc... cmon man, you are entirely caught out. we are going in circles here.

Now you claim I "realized the offer was CPC" yep, you read my mind, you read my thoughts and found out I realized an offer that says "trial offer" is a CPC offer.

Yes I did ask my AM if he can remove all offers from the smartlink because I thought that offer was converting best and wanted to send all my traffic to it. If I had something to hide or knew it was CPC, why then did I ask the AM to do it for me?

Also, answer this, YOU WILL NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR POST EVIDENCE. Did I ever directlink that offer, or any offer, NO NO NO NO NO.

So why was I banned. Reason is obvious, because you put a CPC offer into a freaking smartlink, and then didn't want to pay out on it.

Your only freaking excuse for banning me is that, two days before I was banned, I asked my AM if he can remove all USA offers from my smartlink except one, and he said no, and I said ok.

Yep, I got banned for asking if I can do something I never did.

You're a f***d company.

 

[T J Tutor]

I am telling all of you this ONCE!

WE DO NOT USE THE WORDS SCAM, SCAMMERS, FRAUDS, etc. This is a resolution forum. This is not a name calling forum. You will all keep discussions civil and you will all abide by communications ethics. Nothing, not ever, is resolved by name calling.

The Mods have been instructed to remove and/or replace those words in this thread!

 

[Trailblazer]

I was not aware and I apologize, I am very upset with this situation of having my hard earned money not paid out to me. I will not post those words again. @T J Tutor

Can you please ask OGads if I ever direct linked the offer he claims I did, to get it on the record, and then to provide screenshots of me doing it.

Also, can you please contact me let me know how I can privately send you my traffic information that shows my traffic is not adult/cam bot or whatever else he claimed.

Thanks.

 

[ogads]

Now you claim I "realized the offer was CPC" yep, you read my mind, you read my thoughts and found out I realized an offer that says "trial offer" is a CPC offer.

It had 0 conversions on your stats, you can clearly see this here

if you divide that up, 1,170 / 255.22

Im pretty sure you noticed you were getting a 0.21 EPC on that offer and decided to run only traffic to that usa offer, which is totally understandable. Nevertheless,

Can you please ask OGads if I ever direct linked the offer he claims I did, to get it on the record, and then to provide screenshots of me doing it.

you arent allowed to direct link the offer (by removing all other offers in the smartlink you turned it into a direct link)

 

[Trailblazer]

I already explained I had no idea it was CPC, i'll explain it again, no network I have ever sent my smartlink traffic to has had CPC offers in their smartlinks. It is not my responsibility to know how your tracking works, I paid no attention to "conversions" metric. The offer states it's a "trial download offer"

If I knew it was a CPC offer, why did I ask the AM if he can remove all offers so I can direct link it. Why would I ask him to do that if I already was doing that?

I have asked these questions so many times, you never answer them.

you arent allowed to direct link the offer (by removing all other offers in the smartlink you turned it into a direct link)

You stand by this assertion then? that I removed all offers from the smartlink and turned it into a direct link offer? When did I do this? Why did I ask my AM to do this then if I already did it? Why won't you post ANY evidence that I did this.

Come on, you've stated at least a dozen times now (although with changed stories) that I direct linked that offer. You as an employ of ogads have access to my account stats, show me one day that ONLY that offer got traffic. Or ANY other proof I direct linked.

 

[T J Tutor]

Can you please ask OGads if I ever direct linked the offer he claims I did, to get it on the record, and then to provide screenshots of me doing it.

Also, can you please contact me let me know how I can privately send you my traffic information that shows my traffic is not adult/cam bot or whatever else he claimed.

Thanks.

And here it is!
I'm pretty sure this is the issue as you requested proof of a direct link. Looks like user error to me.

Is there any way in all of this universe you two can kiss and make up and get past this issue?

Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has their moments of regretting words, everyone has an opportunity (in most cases) to mend a fence and learn to help one another. I hope this can happen here!

It had 0 conversions on your stats, you can clearly see this here

if you divide that up, 1,170 / 255.22

Im pretty sure you noticed you were getting a 0.21 EPC on that offer and decided to run only traffic to that usa offer, which is totally understandable. Nevertheless,



you arent allowed to direct link the offer (by removing all other offers in the smartlink you turned it into a direct link)

 

[T J Tutor]

It has always been my experience that level heads, civil and professional conversations, and proper research are at the helm of solutions that benefit everyone in a disruption.

Are we done here? Can we put this one to bed guys?

 

[Trailblazer]

I'm sorry @T J Tutor i'm not fully sure what you meant by your post, the screenshot shows the offer with 0 conversions, and earnings, I did not put two and two together that it was a CPC offer, I did not know smartlinks had CPC offers.

But that is not the problem, even if it is a CPC offer, the smartlink was sending the traffic to it, not me, he claims I direct linked to it, that would be the problem and against his TOS.

But he will not provide ANY evidence I direct linked to it.

I don't see how even if I did know it was a CPC offer that it would be my fault, I did not put it there or send traffic to it, they did.

I have every reason to be upset, I was led on to believe I would be paid, I sent them traffic I could have sent elsewhere, and then I was banned with the lie "I direct linked" which I promise on everything in this world, I NEVER DID.

I just want my payment.

 

[ogads]

@TJ - i will pay him for any traffic that was rightfully earned, other than the reversed cpc traffic -- provided this thread gets closed with a resolution

I have every reason to be upset, I was led on to believe I would be paid, I sent them traffic I could have sent elsewhere, and then I was banned with the lie "I direct linked" which I promise on everything in this world, I NEVER DID.

that traffic you sent to my CPC offer would have earned you maybe $1-3 dollars elsewhere.

prove your YTZ earnings for the same traffic amount to the mac download offer -- still 0 proof of where your traffic is REALLY from, so i suggest you either prove it or stop blowing up this thread with steam again.

I am not paying you for traffic which we havent been paid for. END OF STORY.

 

[Trailblazer]

Are we done here? Can we put this one to bed guys?

@T J Tutor I'm sorry but that is just not fair, I was wronged. He stated I direct linked an offer, and banned me and withed my money for something that is not true. He will not provide any evidence that it's true because he can't, because it never happened.

Why should a CPA company doing business on these forums as "verified" be allowed to do something like that. They should be held accountable.

All I did was use their system how it should be used. I sent traffic to a smartlink. It is not my fault and I shouldn't get punished that the smartlink was redirecting a part of my traffic to an offer that is CPC. That is their fault, they led me on to believe my traffic was converting so I continued to sending it to them. I could have used this traffic on other networks to make that money.

I feel wronged and the lies Ogads has told are easily documented in this thread.

He posted my public information, outed my marketing strategy, and withed my payment for something that has no fault with me. Why shouldn't he be held accountable?

Some of my YTZ payments of the same traffic on smartlinks Imgur
Some of my monotizer payments of the same traffic on smartlinks Imgur

Please for the last time @ogads show the proof that I direct linked, show the proof that there are "private forums" where defrauding you through your smartlinks topics exist. Show the stats of my accounts and where all my smartlink traffic were going to, for each day, show it!

 

[ogads]

^ You figuring out how to direct link the specific offer.

^ You blocking all other offers on the smartlink to turn it into a direct offer

You are currently owed this for the rest of your 131,000 clicks you sent to our smarturl

Happy to pay you this, we move on, you go through YTZ/Monetizer and continue to monetize your HQ MAC TRAFFIC with them.

I am not showing public info on how to defraud our own network with the smartlink.

 

[Trailblazer]

No I didn't block all the offers on the smartlink, that is a joke, the smartlink has thousands of offers, and as the screenshot shows I asked the AM to block 7 offers that were not converting well.

This is your evidence of me direct linking? Exactly, you have none, all you have is me asking if I can do it, and being told no. I never did it. and you KNOW IT!

Your screenshots also have timestamps of 3days ago, and 1mth ago, but yet you posted the 3 days ago one, and then the 1 month ago one to make it seem I had my AM block out 7 offers after I was told I can't direct link. No, I had the AM remove 7 offers from the smartlink 1 month ago. And then after the smartlink went down, I asked if there was anyway to directlink the offer that was converting well for me on the smartlink.

Pay me all the money you had me believe I was earning, you know it's the right thing to do. I would have been sending that traffic to those other networks had I known you were not going to pay me.

 

[ogads]

No I didn't block all the offers on the smartlink, that is a joke, the smartlink has thousands of offers, and as the screenshot shows I asked the AM to block 7 offers that were not converting well.

I just posted proof that you requested the other USA offers on the smartlink to be blocked, im not dumb man.... you blocked all usa offers so that the link would automatically pay you out 0.21 per click.... we've seen this so many times before.....

I owe you $44.93 in REAL earnings. if you want to be paid this amount in full, i will process it now and we close this thread as you are just repeating yourself now and even the mods are trying to come to a resolution here ... you wont be paid for the traffic that didnt back out -- i will happily pay you $44.93 even though just this post is damaging to my networks reputation, something ive spent years on building, yet takes 1 day of forum posting to ruin a networks reputation due to the fact you got caught out.

Anyone reading this post who has any doubts please check here - OGAds - CPA Network Reviews - Affpaying for real reviews from our happy publishers.

 

[Trailblazer]

I just posted proof that you requested the other USA offers on the smartlink to be blocked, im not dumb man.... you blocked all usa offers so that the link would automatically pay you out 0.21 per click.... we've seen this so many times before.....

So my requesting that some USA offers be blocked is proof that I was direct linking to an offer? Try again buddy, how about you post a day of stats that show only that offer was being direct linked. You can't, it doesn't exist.

You're also claiming that your network only has 7 USA offers? and that after your AM blocked them for me, that somehow I did something wrong? If an offer is not converting at all on a smartlink, it's normal you have it removed. Everyone knows that.

You're not making any sense guy. Post proof of stats that show I direct linked. Not the repeated screen shots of me asking if I can have the offer direct linked, or me asking the AM to stop sending traffic to 7 offers that weren't converting.

For the 1000th time, POST PROOF that I direct linked, you have access to all stats on your network, post them here publicly for every day that I ran the smartlink and show where my traffic was going.

Anyone reading this post who has any doubts please check here

People can make their own conclusion in this own thread, why do you need to link to something that has nothing to do with this forum. Just because you've paid other affiliates out in the past has nothing to do with the situation here and me getting screwed.

I want my full payment, that is the ONLY time I will consider the wrong you have done made right. In the future don't add CPC offers to your smartlinks and lead on your affiliates for two months into thinking they are converting on trial offers, and then ban them, act immature, and withhold their earnings.

 

[ogads]

I want my full payment, that is the ONLY time I will consider the wrong you have done made right. In the future don't add CPC offers to your smartlinks and lead on your affiliates for two months into thinking they are converting on trial offers, and then ban them, act immature, and withhold their earnings.

You are continuing to run around in circles, POST PROOF of your traffic source... ive posted enough today... you've wasted my entire day replying to this thread, you cant understand


YOUR TRAFFIC DIDNT RESULT IN ANY REAL INSTALLS
(When we checked your traffic with the advertiser it raised a flag on your account)

YOU WERE BLOCKED ON THE OFFER AND THEY REFUSED TO PAY ME FOR THE BALANCE SHOWN ON OG the $360

THIS is how much i owe you, take it or leave it ? i will donate it to charity otherwise.

I am really done replying to this thread if you cant prove where your traffic is from- stop asking me to show more and more and more, ive done enough to prove myself -- its time for you to either like it or lump it, you arent getting that money, ive not been paid for it, and i refuse to pay for it.

 

[Trailblazer]

I am "running in circles" by stating my exact same claim each and everytime? The claim that you are l***g about my direct linking. No, you are running around in circles and off topic, and trying to blow smoke.

You want me to publicly prove where my traffic is coming from? I showed you two screenshots of ytz.com and monotizer.com sending me payments for years for my traffic. The traffic is legit. You are asking that I reveal how I make money online, on a forum about making money online, so that my method is used by everyone here and I have thousands of competitors? What is wrong with you, seriously.

You know my traffic is legit that's why you want to pay me for everything BUT the CPC offer, the offer that was put into the smartlink by YOUR network, and traffic sent to it by YOUR smartlink. It's not my fault it was there! I NEVER DIRECT LINKED IT!

I am really done replying to this thread if you cant prove where your traffic is from- stop asking me to show more and more and more, ive done enough to prove myself -- its time for you to either like it or lump it, you arent getting that money, ive not been paid for it, and i refuse to pay for it.

I will send proof of my traffic to Admins once they request it like I've said over and over. Yes, you've done enough posting in this thread, you posted EVERYTHING but proof that I direct linked. You posted two screenshots of me asking if I can do it, and of me asking to have non converting offers removed. I guess I deserve all my money sto**n for that right?

If you are such a big, and profitable, reputable company, how can you not afford about $400 to pay out to an affiliate that you wronged? How do you have a full day to come in this thread and lie and cover up l*e with li*. Any corporation that is legitimate knows that PR is the most important thing, this thread alone, and the thousands of others I will write about you, will end up costing you over $1,000s in lost profits once people are made aware of this situation and how you acted. If you really are a company that has plans to stick around and be legitimate, that would of caused you concern. But to you, keeping my $400 is what's important.

People can make their own conclusions after reading this, I will not let you have the last word until you pay me what you led me to believe I was earning.

 

[ogads]

Based off principal, i refuse to be bullied by someone who cant understand that their traffic is not "high quality" at all

THINGS YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
1) your requests to my manager your account to be reviewed & the traffic ended up being low quality with no actual installs from your traffic

2) i already have a link flow from your redirect link which goes directly from your URL to the CPC offer, because you requested the other offers that were getting clicks on the superurl to be blocked, so you would then only push traffic to that one specific offer. thats PROOF, i already sent it on the forum above.

those payments from other networks could be easily found online / this isnt any real proof of where your traffic is from at all.

I suggest you take the money and go to another network, i suggest anyone else with smarturl traffic to use monetizer or ytz to monetize your traffic, OGAds is a content locking network.

You know my traffic is legit that's why you want to pay me for everything BUT the CPC offer,

Not true, i have already been paid for the $44 worth of traffic on 1 smartlink compared to

your $360 traffic on another smartlink for the cpc offer....

stop playing dumb, its really getting old now.

 

[Trailblazer]

You're being bullied, now you're the victim? I am out $400 because of you and me trying to get my money back is "bullying"?

Keep showing the world how you work and operate, i'm sure your posts are causing thousands of people to flock to your network where they will be treated so kindly like I was.

Post proof that I was direct linking like you've claimed over and over or give me my money.

2) i already have a link flow from your redirect link which goes directly from your URL to the CPC offer, because you requested the other offers that were getting clicks on the superurl to be blocked, so you would then only push traffic to that one specific offer. thats PROOF, i already sent it on the forum above.

Your proof is that I requested that some offers be removed from the smartlink, and that I asked if I can direct link? I'm sorry, but the only thing that proves is that I did everything right, I asked. You are claiming that traffic went to that link directly. But THIS IS THE PROOF YOU WON'T PROVIDE.

No one wants anymore proof that I asked if I can direct link, I stated this in my first post on this thread that I asked if I can do that. I want proof that I actually did direct link. SHOW THE STATS!

OGAds is a content locking network.

Yeah, but you had a smartlink, and I used it, and you disabled the smartlink on your site because it wasn't working out for you (probably because you had CPC offers in it) and now me, and possibly many others, who used the smartlinks are stuck with lost money due to your failed experiment.

Based off principal

You're really claiming you're principled after you doxed my email, revealed my domain, witheld my money, banned me from your network without warning, made excuses and lies, and refuse to pay me. And refuse to provide proof that I direct linked the offer?

I'm sure everyone reading this wants some of the principle you are offering.

 

[ogads]

Even if you did not do direct linking you would still not be paid for the CPC offer traffic like we have said. You had no conversions on the offer so the advertiser is not paying. Which means your traffic is LQ. The ONLY reason i even checked is because you made me worry about the traffic quality and so i asked the advertiser and after a review of the traffic he told me that he will not pay for it & removed you from the offer.