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[Rio Lu]

I am writing this regarding to a payment issue with an affiliate named Champ that happened with us few weeks ago.

I just want to point out that he started promote our offer 3 weeks ago and our game offer is on monthly payment. Champ always asking his payment from us, almost everyday. He even threatened me to send his payment, if I don't then he will kill me. Then we found that he was using fake traffic to promote our offer and our advertiser sent us the proof that all the fake traffics was from send from Champ. Therefore we decided not pay him the payment.

YeahMobi never hold any good affiliates' payment on purpose unless the affiliate uses fake or fraud traffic to promote our offers.

 

[K]

I'm guessing this in reference to Review - Yeahmobi BIGGEST SCAM NETWORK EVER ! ( STOLE MY $8000 ) | Affiliate Marketing Forum | AffiliateFix

 

[game333]

But some member like @cpateacher complain the same thing too
Review - Yeahmobi BIGGEST SCAM NETWORK EVER ! ( STOLE MY $8000 ) | Page 2 | Affiliate Marketing Forum | AffiliateFix

 

[prafpat]

I agree with Rio. I know many other affiliates who send good traffic and use ethical promotion methods, they always get paid from YeahMobi!


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[CPAEXPERT]

No wonder, champ did not have guts to go legal and sue the company, because he knew he is the defaulter here. Affiliates like him gives a bad reputation to all of us who works really hard to stand in the industry. Short cut and greed nevers pays.
I mentioned in his post, that a reputed network will never hold the money unless there is something wrong with the leads and traffic, and such behaviour is not acceptable.

 

[Rio Lu]

No wonder, champ did not have guts to go legal and sue the company, because he knew he is the defaulter here. Affiliates like him gives a bad reputation to all of us who works really hard to stand in the industry. Short cut and greed nevers pays.
I mentioned in his post, that a reputed network will never hold the money unless there is something wrong with the leads and traffic, and such behaviour is not acceptable.

that's right ! we are never going to pay fake traffics . Cause the advertiser has found out that champ was using fake traffics to promote our offer .that is why we don't pay to him.

 

[Thai Long]

that's right ! we are never going to pay fake traffics . Cause the advertiser has found out that champ was using fake traffics to promote our offer .that is why we don't pay to him.

Why not show the advertiser's feedback about his traffic to show as proof of your talk?

 

[K]

Why not show the advertiser's feedback about his traffic to show as proof of your talk?

I agree, no one is innocent here until proof has been shown.

I love this industry but hate how closed everyone is, if the relationship between advertiser and affiliate was more open and transparent we wouldn't need these discussions.

 

[Rio Lu]

But some member like @cpateacher complain the same thing too
Review - Yeahmobi BIGGEST SCAM NETWORK EVER ! ( STOLE MY $8000 ) | Page 2 | Affiliate Marketing Forum | AffiliateFix

I agree, no one is innocent here until proof has been shown.

I love this industry but hate how closed everyone is, if the relationship between advertiser and affiliate was more open and transparent we wouldn't need these discussions.

Dear Sir

We send him the advertiser's proof about fake retention he was making it.

 

[Thai Long]

Dear Sir

We send him the advertiser's proof about fake retention he was making it.

@Champ On confirmation please

 

[Thai Long]

Although have feedback from advertiser,But why you are not block account of them?
@Rio Lu

 

[Rio Lu]

Although have feedback from advertiser,But why you are not block account of them?
@Rio Lu

cause we respect every affiliate!

 

[Thai Long]

cause we respect every affiliate!

Sounds a bit absurd. You still want this affiliate doing for you,and you continue usurp money of them

 

[Rio Lu]

Sounds a bit absurd. You still want this affiliate doing for you,and you continue usurp money of them

is not absurd mate ! Is the basic respect to our client.

 

[TrafficBroker]

Why so much respect for a fraud affiliate?

 

[CPAEXPERT]

but i one thing i really dislike, is that in this situation, if the affiliate has generated fake traffic or leads, it is better to be transparent, rather than telling the affiliate that he will get paid, if the company has the authentic proof then the affiliate has the rights to know what has caused the damage. It is not acceptable to stay silent and not to inform the affiliate that what went wrong. Some network does it, and i heard a lot, wont name the network, but the network will terminate the account, and will not continue any further communication. What about the proof? Just by saying, one cannot be proven as guilty, that is an easy escape from not paying the affiliate. Sometime traffic network cannot even control the bots traffic, so a chance should be given for explanation or a warning should be issued instead of banning the account and not allowing the other person speak. A proper explanation and the reason should be given, if the amount is not paid.

 

[yoohoo]

i work with yeahmobi 1 year, always get paid from YeahMobi!, why you are saying is not good.

 

[startac8000]

What is fraud/fake traffic? Can you explain?

Using pop/redirect is not fraud traffic. The retention rate is not low because of affiliates using pop/redirect traffic. Its because of the app install being low quality or crappy (apus launcher...omni swipe. whatever they are calling themselves now).

Advertisers are quick to claim affiliates are sending them fraud/fake traffic because of low retention rates. This is not the case. The users are telling the affiliates their product *might* be crappy.

Using pop/redirect is the only profitable way to promote app installs. I tried every other way without any success. If you consider pop/redirect to be fraud traffic it will just be a matter of time before affiliates stop promoting your offers and your network going out of business.

This has started to happen with appflood and is only a matter of time before these networks go out of business (prolly at most 6 months).

A sign this is started to happen is *when* the networks move from standard weekly payments for all affiliates generating at least $100/weekly to monthly payments.

 

[artie7]

I'm new on the business, but I'm already running my 4th campaign in my 4 weeks that I've been on this... obviously having obstacles all the way... however, one of the main bumps is the process to select an offer on your niche? I've been focused on mobile AM, and have tried sweepstakes, CPI offers... BUT... every time I see the actual product/app I google it and found most of the reviews tend to be either a scam offer or a crappy app. The whole purpose of AM is to help the advertiser to sell something, but in most cases at least on this scenario, its hard for the affiliate to find the methods to sell the offer (pop/redirect method for mobile app installs) and with the advertiser/network having nothing to loose, its easy for them to blame the affiliate's traffic with any non-evidenced excuses like this...

bottom line: if the offer/app is not worth it, I don't think it should be even allowed to be promoted...

just my $0.02

 

[T J Tutor]

We have had these types of threads several times in the recent past. When one chooses to challenge (become a plaintiff) on a public platform and the challenged (defendant) responds on a public platform, then transparency is the single most important catalyst for the those of us observing the conversation to gain an understanding. To say all affiliates are operating 100% within boundaries is not true. To say all networks operate 100% within boundaries is not true. Therefore, the possibilities exist within every network/affiliate/advertiser relationship for errors, improprieties, and fraudulent behavior.

Affiliates, especially Newbies, need guidance. They are prone to mistakes. They also learn from them when they are given the opportunities to correct any errors in their respective behaviors in business. No one is perfect. They should not be penalized without absolute written proof of any indiscretions. As well, in business, it is a responsible and beneficial posture to work with the individual to help them be productive and successful. A sophisticated business, like a network, should have systems in place to help someone that faultors' instead of shredding them, their accounts, and their respective dignity.

It is a requirement of the U.S Federal Trade Commission, who's reach extends to any countries that have any trade and treaty pacts allowing for cross border business relations, to provide absolute proof of any indiscretions when withholding monies due. This means that any business in a foreign land doing business in the U.S. is subject to providing evidence of fraud (or some other violation) when withholding payments due to an individual or business. Without it, that business can be sited and prosecuted in their own country (as well as the U.S.) for fraudulent activities. Many networks feel they can hold back the money and tell the affiliates they are not getting paid. This puts the network at risk for international class action suit if there are several individuals experiencing non-payment when being accused of fraud when no evidence is provided that would satisfy a court.

We have seen networks, EWA comes to mind, that just took the money and told everyone they would get paid. Look what happened there. They weren't the first, and they won't be the last.

On the other hand, there are an abundance of affiliates out there scamming everything under the sun. This is an ongoing problem that has caused a weakness in the networks. They feel (most of them) that simply kicking an affiliate to the curb is no big deal because there are so many of them and they don't think it will have any repercussions for them. Most of them feel that banning a person and taking the affiliates money isn't worth explaining in a professional manner. I would be willing to bet, just from my experience in this forum, that one in ten Newbies experience a ban for an indiscretion at some point that could have been turned around into a positive with a little kindness, understanding, and direction from the networks and the AM's.

Again, as I have seen here before, there is no clear winner. Any actual evidence has not been provided here. The argument and chastising is at an all time high in this conversation, and yet I have not seen either side actually hold out an olive branch, take the high road, and work towards a solution. In my professional opinion, and over 45 years as a businessman, all wars end in rational, productive, and calm communications meant to heal both parties and not leave one wounded and flailing on the floor!

Given the state of our industry and the frequency of these types of issues, I think we are long overdue for an arbitration board that all parties are committed to. It should be in the original documents establishing the relationships between the parties.

Please, I beg of all of you, get your asses into non-threatening behavior patterns and work closely as partners to find resolutions to issues and eliminate the arrogant and destructive patterns this industry is becoming famous for!