A bit of advice about a good traffic source for adult traffic

[Barbatrucco]

Hello, as the tile says I need some head up to choose a traffic source for adult cam traffic. I was setting up a campaign with Propeller Ads when I remember that it is a good thing to always read terms of service before starting

And yes, they don't want adult content!!!

Galaksion is the same.

The problem is that I have done a fair bit of digging and I find these two trustable, professional and with a lot of hi-tech tricks up their sleeves. The other ones look a bit "behind the curve" so to speak.

And of course the one needs to accept adult content. Exoclick? Yeah i tried, but they ask for company infos and I am a solo affiliate. So it looks like I cannot use their services.


What other reputable traffic network can I use to drive adult traffic?

 

[DirectOffersAvailable]

Hey there,

Please connect on skype (live:simmir216) , I have a list of ad networks with good dating traffic. or check DM.

Best.

 

[Barbatrucco]

Thank you for the DM

 

[Graybeard]

Best traffic I used for cams was email redirect (dating site related) for $25.00/ 1,000 - 4 referrals actually signed up ...
Pretty bad numbers but it was 100% human traffic.

Google ads or Bing ads is good if you can deal with their policy bs.
SEO brand traffic is the best. The cam site thanks you for your efforts
Do you currently have a record of conversion with traffic to use as a cost model?

WELCOME ABOARD ...

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[Barbatrucco]

Best traffic I used for cams was email redirect (dating site related) for $25.00/ 1,000 - 4 referrals actually signed up ...

Do you buy it or do you have a mailing list?

Google ads or Bing ads is good if you can deal with their policy bs.

Yeah I tried to register for Bing Ads yesterday and this "simple" process is already a nightmare. I wonder about the rest!

SEO brand traffic is the best. The cam site thanks you for your efforts

I must admit my sin. I was into affiliate marketing in the 2000s, until 2006. I have worked with practically anything, from adult websites ( in the good old times you could sell even porn pics ), to casinos, betting, reverse auctions.

At the time traffic networks were very few and not particularly efficient. The web wasn't monopolized. Webmasters' mindset was more BBS inspired, so we liked to put links to competitors websites and create networks of happy marketers happily making money.

SEO was my main go to venue to get traffic. I must admit that even Google at the time was approachable. Many local search engines, based on very ancient ranking techs like word frequency, made it a breeze to put our websites in front of our audience.

I see that today's SEO is more centered around external factors like the number of users a domain receives, how much users spend on it, how many pages they watch, and of course backlinks are the elephant in the room. With social networks it is even messier from the few bits I have gathered in the last 3-4 months of study.

Do you currently have a record of conversion with traffic to use as a cost model?

Sadly no. A 20 years old record wouldn't be useful in today's market. I am preparing to launch a bunch of tests with a few selected traffic network and affiliate programs. So I will gather some data to ponder on.

 

[Graybeard]

Well ...

Sadly no. A 20 years old record wouldn't be useful in today's market.

The market for webcams 'seems difficult' maybe the revshare approach works poorly for my whitelabels.
Perhaps, DOI would work better but GMail put the server of the cam program on a spam list --I am tired of rowing uphill so fk it.

So, when I bought the email redirects --I said no @gmail AT ALL. Didn't feel like pissing in the wind.

My experience is that it costs $0.20 - $0.60 to acquire an active session on the cam site --I had full access to GA4 in my target site. Site didn't sell apparently. Last go $300.00 in various ads yielding; 1 credit card signup (full member) + 6 free signups --I wasted my time and money.

Good luck to you.

 

[Barbatrucco]

Well ...


The market for webcams 'seems difficult' maybe the revshare approach works poorly for my whitelabels.
Perhaps, DOI would work better but GMail put the server of the cam program on a spam list --I am tired of rowing uphill so fk it.

So, when I bought the email redirects --I said no @gmail AT ALL. Didn't feel like pissing in the wind.

My experience is that it costs $0.20 - $0.60 to acquire an active session on the cam site --I had full access to GA4 in my target site. Site didn't sell apparently. Last go $300.00 in various ads yielding; 1 credit card signup (full member) + 6 free signups --I wasted my time and money.

Good luck to you.

Oh my God, a terrible experience. Looks like affiliate marketing has become very very problematic, to say the least.

Also I have noted those "offer aggregators" that put together shady offers ( I found similar things on a hacking forum, a guy was using such baits to spread malware for his clients ). But the worst thing are the ridiculous CPA and the caps!!! Why caps!?! In the past there was no such thing as "you are giving me too many customers".

It looks like gambling is the last semi-serious business out there.

 

[Graybeard]

Well if you pay for signups or pay for leads there must be a reasonable conversion for each affiliate/ or offer.

If I buy a ton of rocks and hope to find some ones that make me a profit ... How many ton of rock need I buy from one source?

500 to 1000 should show a return (ROI) or have a profitable Return On Marketing Investment (ROMI).

Legacy OG: My historical data showed a webcam client was gross revenue of ~$500.00 (total amount that the median spends. c.2006) $2-4 per minute private.

There is still opportunity --but what it is and where it is on the adoption cure is what really make or breaks what happens. What's new and makes sense? Disruption can be of something legacy like the Digital Financial Services (DFS) v. pinstripe banks (The OG Chase, BofA others).

 

[Barbatrucco]

Well if you pay for signups or pay for leads there must be a reasonable conversion for each affiliate/ or offer.

If I buy a ton of rocks and hope to find some ones that make me a profit ... How many ton of rock need I buy from one source?

True. This is why search engines are the best traffic source even in 2024!!! At the end of the day, the game is to find the spots where interested users are.

I truly don't understand all the hype about social networks. I mean, people on Instagram, Facebook and even worse Tiktok, are just wasting time by browsing videos of young girls wagging their asses. Ok for brand awareness and recognition, but I don't see value for us affiliate marketers that need to convert.

Legacy OG: My historical data showed a webcam client was gross revenue of ~$500.00 (total amount that the median spends. c.2006) $2-4 per minute private.

Numbers have gone down. I remember the good old days of dialers, when people were spending thousands a month for their porn needs

There is still opportunity --but what it is and where it is on the adoption cure is what really make or breaks what happens. What's new and makes sense? Disruption can be of something legacy like the Digital Financial Services (DFS) v. pinstripe banks (The OG Chase, BofA others).

An interesting trend I have noted is that people look attracted towards gambling like activities. For example, the level of hype and activity around cryptocurrencies is incredible. It is much easier to attract someone towards signing up to a crypto exchange that selling them a cam membership.

 

[Graybeard]

I bought a few shares in BITO an ETF that is long in the BTC and in the ETH futures market.
The Internet population does believe in this. This is definitely on the uphill side of the adoption curve.

But the value of digital currency is subject to force majeure. Governments make the rules and enforce their edicts. That known: I do wish I had not poo-pooed the guy touting BTC at the Pheonix Forum is 2012 I would have 1000 x my "investment" in what I saw, and still do see, as essentially hot air.

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Question: Are crypto casinos really wagering "legal tender" money and subject to the gambling laws of a nation?

The distributed network advantage is very much gone in the US:

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So that argument is mostly contradictory or outright false in the US:

Acceptable regulatory markets for Crypto gambling are:
1. Malta
2. Curacao
3. Estonia
4. Costa Rica
5. Gibraltar
6. United Kingdom
7. Antigua and Barbuda
8. Isle of Man

It is much easier to attract someone towards signing up to a crypto exchange that selling them a cam membership.

I really don't think this is going to be that simple. Unless, you can find a 'reputable' new exchange with good affiliate program as well as a good customer value proposition.

 

[Barbatrucco]

That known: I do wish I had not poo-pooed the guy touting BTC at the Pheonix Forum is 2012 I would have 1000 x my "investment" in what I saw, and still do see, as essentially hot air.

I feel the pain. I didn't even believe in something that wasn't fiat currency. Sadly we have been brainwashed since birth about what constitutes real money ( just like religions do ) and it is difficult to break free and see money for what it is, a convention whose value depends on the fact that every human on the planet sees it as something of value.

Question: Are crypto casinos really wagering "legal tender" money and subject to the gambling laws of a nation?

I think crypto casinos are the thing to go for relatively poor people that don't have the money to buy a license.

 

[Graybeard]

I think crypto casinos are the thing to go for relatively poor people that don't have the money to buy a license.

I think crypto casinos are the thing to go DO? for relatively poor people that don't have the money to buy a license.
As casino owners-operators (you mean)?

Well, if you do not have the mandated assets and good name (not a criminal) why would I trust you with my money with online gambling -- unless I am a total rube ?

read this this morning

Online-gambling giants conquer U.S. with tactics... (questionable* added)​

https://www.reuters.com/investigati...-tactics-deemed-too-tough-britain-2024-07-03/

 

[Graybeard]

Sadly we have been brainwashed since birth about what constitutes real money ( just like religions do ) and it is difficult to break free and see money for what it is, a convention whose value depends on the fact that every human on the planet sees it as something of value.

Freely convertible to acquire assets and pay debts. That is all money is. So far, crypto is a complicated and cumbersome currency for transactions. It's bad enough dealing with banking sources. A lot has to do about tracking money laundering and criminals. Money is a means of control by governments really.
My long position sure sucks lately

 

[Barbatrucco]

As casino owners-operators (you mean)?

of course as casino operators

 

[Barbatrucco]

Well, if you do not have the mandated assets and good name (not a criminal) why would I trust you with my money with online gambling -- unless

true in theory

in practice the son of the boss Riina owns a legal casino in Italy

 

[Graybeard]

boss Riina

My fact checker AI says otherwise

Notorious Mafia "boss of bosses" Toto Riina dead at 87​

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November 17, 2017 / 6:45 AM EST / AP

MILAN --Mafia "boss of bosses" Salvatore "Toto" Riina died early Friday in a hospital while serving multiple life sentences

 

[Barbatrucco]

My fact checker AI says otherwise

this is the father, it is his son that his the owner of a company that owns online casinos and betting gigs

as for the rest, it is as simple as "you are part of the family, you play the game"

there are 5 cities were land based casinos exist and they are all owned, through various intermediaries, by a certain family with strong connections in the bureaucracy realm and other State bodies ( politicians are just puppets, only one of them, Gianfranco Fini, was smart enough to use his connections to get a license to operate online casinos from Antigua )

the problem is that while it is legal on paper and you can get a license, there will be thousands of obstacles if you don't oil the machine or don't have connections in the right places

it happened in 2004-2005 when a law was enacted to open to other EU operators

at first the big english operators ( and some from Malta, Cyprus, Lithuania, Estonia and other east european countries ) arrived en masse, today they have been more or less displaced by companies created by "the certain family"

and the funny thing is that the son of Totò Riina was able to get a license to run a "legal and safe" gambling gig!!! sic!

so it is a de facto monopoly, where a handful of people run the game and the State enforces their monopoly

and yes, the land based casinos are partially owned by the government, but this isn't true for online ones

 

[Mondiad]

Hello, as the tile says I need some head up to choose a traffic source for adult cam traffic. I was setting up a campaign with Propeller Ads when I remember that it is a good thing to always read terms of service before starting

And yes, they don't want adult content!!!

Galaksion is the same.

The problem is that I have done a fair bit of digging and I find these two trustable, professional and with a lot of hi-tech tricks up their sleeves. The other ones look a bit "behind the curve" so to speak.

And of course the one needs to accept adult content. Exoclick? Yeah i tried, but they ask for company infos and I am a solo affiliate. So it looks like I cannot use their services.


What other reputable traffic network can I use to drive adult traffic?

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