Adult Banners Journey

[TrafficYoda]

WTF is *adult products*?

Sex Webcams, Penis Pills, Sex Dolls, Adult Games ...
Hentai is pseudo-porn

I have seen people decide the test spend based on a multiplier of the expected revenue return -- that makes sense.
*The return is $20 so the test ad-spend might be 2 or 3 time the revenue return $40-$60?
But then you have to understand ROI, ROMI and Free cash flows to scale up/out

Penis Pills yes thats my offer.
how do u suggest i approach this offer than?

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE!

Got my First Approved Conversion on Adcombo!
The campaign break even, just need to reduce cost by blacklisting!

 

[tyoussef]

UPDATE!

Got my First Approved Conversion on Adcombo!
The campaign break even, just need to reduce cost by blacklisting!

perfect, hopefully this time you will be able to make it bro.

 

[Graybeard]

Look for push notify that will accept hard core images -- are there any?
You could get images you can use with permission from any porn sponsor (for their goods [program])

 

[TrafficYoda]

That's encouraging -- a conversion.

Yes and in Green

perfect, hopefully this time you will be able to make it bro.

I hope this time i will.
dating offer didn't work so well for me burns off too fast

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE!

Currently added to more traffic sources into my campaigns won't reveal it here so don't ask me.
Current Active campaigns is colored others I stopped as i didn't get a hold after spending advertisement.

a total of 9 holds - 2 Approved 3 Holds 4 Trashed.

#1 The first campaign is close to getting -100% ROI so I will stop when I reach that point
#2 Stopped
#3 Has potential needs more data to filter out good prelander-lp combo
overall I'm getting 1 hold per 400 clicks so gonna increase bid till I get 400 clicks per day see i can make 1 hold per day
#4 Doing the BEST prelander-lp combo
I need holds to get approved before I can filter out good banners and bad.
#5 Stoppped
#6 traffic is very slow on this country might take months to get data. just gonna let it sit for a while as it doesn't eat up a lot of the advertisement cost.
#7 Has potential need more data to make it green!
#8 Traffic Scaling of #4 but this network traffic is low.

 

[Graybeard]

I found an advertising network that is OK with XXX banner, pop and push notice images ... CPC is high though -- $0.25 to $0.45 so they would have to convert ... Customer acquisition is worth $100 to $250 net to me over time but we are talking a 3 months to 30 month time span. So, free cash flow may be a problem. each repeat purchase is worth $12+-

 

[planBman]

Congrats for the good job

 

[TrafficYoda]

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Congrats for the good job

Thank you for the banner! Lovely Downloaded the image

 

[planBman]

Many thanks to You, TrafficYoda, for your generous sharing of this utmost "golden" journey.

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE!

So far in my COD Adult Banners Journey is going very well.
I ran a lot of campaigns testing different country Currently
Made 171 sales // 136 Hold // Spent 550
Out of all the campaign right now Running 3 campaigns that have potential

Campaign #1 In the green right now
43.5 earnings with 34.14 ad spend, testing banners and time
Campaign #2 In the red because a lot in the hold still only 1 approved
testing banners
Campaign #3 Just started to test new hot offer on adcombo.

What I did.
-was running 2 traffic source feel that one of the traffic sources is just wasting my test budget couldn't find something good so I am focusing on 1 traffic source that is doing good.
-Testing Banners .5 x of offer payout expecting at least 1 sales or block.
-Test campaigns with little or just 1 landing/pre-lander on adcombo to minimalize the testing budget

Question
-What I could optimize with my traffic source is TIME. Gotta find a way to correctly optimize this without losing profit.

 

[Graybeard]

0.25% CTR is the median Desktop banner rate
0.50% CTR is the median Mobile banner rate

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE
okay, big update guys last few days was doing awesome.
I got the hang of COD campaigns, got a better exit plan, a better idea on how to run cod offers ALL THANKS TO @kashiefh HE'S THE BEST! XOXO

Anyways u guys want real data so here's the last 3 days data
just look at the conversion as hold+conversion
the profit and loss data is little off because of confusing postback on adcombo with holds/reject/leads.
But again @kashiefh help me on this he saved my data and now it's all normal now.

actually had 8 holds some holds was lost
2 approved 5 holds 1 trashed

running 4 campaigns now trashed the bad ones.

 

[TrafficYoda]

OKIE UPDATE!
Last month I was more in search for a good traffic source to really dig in, because previous 2 was just not doing well.
Moved onto a nice traffic source to do various of test and focus on some GEO before scaling to big waters.

FEB 1~12 SPENT 285.222 MADE 160.00 Still in the red
Result Good Amount of holds but low sale rate
Testing 3 GEOS Testing 2 Networks
Found a winning landing page (self-hosted)
Now I am doing good on getting holds onto the network for sure just need it to get converted

My BIG Problem
Low Approval Rate

 

[Graybeard]

If you find any REAL adult (XXX) that mobile users really buy -- let me know
A mobile customer historically is worth 10% to 30% in sales dollar volume as compared to desktop users (from what I have seen).

 

[lorenzo]

My BIG Problem
ow Approval Rate

This is why I gave up COD offers. At the end of the month I had 3 times more holds than sales and none of them were converting to sales. Instead of being $700-$800 on plus every month I was few hundred of dolars in red. This is what happened every month, month after month for the period I was running them.

I don't like this business model. You get holds, you think is doing ok and you'll be profitable so you push more traffic, but at the end of the month you have negative ROI because all your holds are rejected. I even ended months with 30-40 holds of $15-$20 and one by one all were rejected in the following month.

I'm telling you this to give you food for thought, if you see it doesn't work for few months, maybe you decide is not your thing and choose to run other offers.

 

[TrafficYoda]

Businesses don't pay good money for empty promises. What good is traffic that does not convert into paying customers? Traffic arbitrage maybe ... Selling email lists has become problematic too lately.

The problem is either 1.)with the offer or 2.) with the current market conditions (too much free content [in adult]) perhaps ...

On the other hand --- massive shaving:doubtful

1) Trying with various of GEOs so different offer on the same network and also trying another network it's been a day got 2 holds still keeping eye on it.

2) if that's so, no one is doing COD these days?

3) Massive Shaving.... reason why im trying another network it's been only a day so can't really so for sure.

 

[TrafficYoda]

This is why I gave up COD offers. At the end of the month I had 3 times more holds than sales and none of them were converting to sales. Instead of being $700-$800 on plus every month I was few hundred of dolars in red. This is what happened every month, month after month for the period I was running them.

I don't like this business model. You get holds, you think is doing ok and you'll be profitable so you push more traffic, but at the end of the month you have negative ROI because all your holds are rejected. I even ended months with 30-40 holds of $15-$20 and one by one all were rejected in the following month.

I'm telling you this to give you food for thought, if you see it doesn't work for few months, maybe you decide is not your thing and choose to run other offers.

yeah that's why I'm not pushing more volume of traffic just enough that it doesn't strain my wallet.

You are offering non-digital goods (penis pills?) as I recall.
Why on hold;

1. a payment processing problem; or,
   
2. a goods shipped issue; or,
3. a goods accepted issue?

Without knowing that? IDK???

1~2 if this was the problem i know few people doing the same offers that is converting but not me so i don't think so.

3. i'm not sure, i asked my am about it but haven't heard back what issue it is.

 

[Graybeard]

#1,0,1246,0.00%
#2,8,4233,0.19%
#3,3,2367,0.13%
#4,0,1206,0.00%
#5,10,4310,0.23%
#6,29,21481,0.14%
#7,63,33659,0.19%
#8,100,57170,0.17% =====================
Totals: 213, "125,672", 0.1695%
125.7K views but how many times per IP?

1. Banners may only be good cpm for name recognition purposes -- building a brand that you own.
2. Your CPC banners are not converting (so far) 213 clicks have said NO to your offer
3. If you got a conversion now your CR would be less than 0.05%
4. What is your upper limit? 500 CPC more?

 

[TrafficYoda]

Maybe @Anastasia AdCombo could give her opinion here.

 

[CAPN]

yeah that's why I'm not pushing more volume of traffic just enough that it doesn't strain my wallet.



1~2 if this was the problem i know few people doing the same offers that is converting but not me so i don't think so.

3. i'm not sure, i asked my am about it but haven't heard back what issue it is.

Holds happean when people enter their phone number on the salespage but don’t answer the phone when the callcenter calls them. They’ll keep calling them for a certain period (1-2 days I believe? Not sure I forgot), and eventually the lead will be trashed. A rejection is when someone picks up the phone but doesn’t want the goods anymore so he doesn’t give his address.

 

[Graybeard]

You want MONEY for Porn
Or, are you calling dating *adult*?
People still pay for the right content that they want.
Well, I meant to cap what YOU spend (in advertising) on this whole project like: $200 $500 ?

 

[TrafficYoda]

Holds happean when people enter their phone number on the salespage but don’t answer the phone when the callcenter calls them. They’ll keep calling them for a certain period (1-2 days I believe? Not sure I forgot), and eventually the lead will be trashed. A rejection is when someone picks up the phone but doesn’t want the goods anymore so he doesn’t give his address.

yeah i know, but i learned that adcombo calls only up to 7 times

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE!
Good news i'm in the green!
Changing landing pages worked
now i'm focusing on the green geo and ditch the rest maybe will go back when i have good cash flow.

i did have one sucky day in the middle but now i'm pushing more traffic so will be expecting more better result tomorrow!

 

[Graybeard]

WTF is *adult products*?

Sex Webcams, Penis Pills, Sex Dolls, Adult Games ...
Hentai is pseudo-porn

I have seen people decide the test spend based on a multiplier of the expected revenue return -- that makes sense.
*The return is $20 so the test ad-spend might be 2 or 3 time the revenue return $40-$60?
But then you have to understand ROI, ROMI and Free cash flows to scale up/out

 

[sam patra]

how do i create a follow along
i want to create one

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE

My first milestone to 100/day