Are you still using voluum free one as you did in your first attempt ?
Complete Mobile Marketing Newbie Journey - trying to be optimistic
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internalsoul
Well-Known Member
There is no free version on voluum. I have subscribed to the paid version of voluum after 3 or 4 months of staring CPA. Neither does adsbridge offer free version anymore.
any updates @internalsoul
are u still running these Campaigns ??
are u still running these Campaigns ??
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
Currently I am using pop traffic (popads and propelerads). Yeah, this was my first attempt on CPA but didn't quite make i. So i went to try web offers in another journal. This is my second attempt on mobile offers and aiming to make it much bigger.
Yeah I am still ruining these campaigns. I'll update this thread with stats tomorrow.
1) So about the sweeptakes offer is it pin submit ?
2) Aboud the antivirus offer is it also pin submit or just pay per install offer
3) Also what traffic source did u scale on popads ? Cus u mentioned that u stoped mobicow cus of low volum
And finaly thanks for sharing your journey i am following your mouves every single day
2) Aboud the antivirus offer is it also pin submit or just pay per install offer
3) Also what traffic source did u scale on popads ? Cus u mentioned that u stoped mobicow cus of low volum
And finaly thanks for sharing your journey i am following your mouves every single day
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
1. Sweeptakes offer s a single opt-in offer
2. It's a pin submit. For just pay-per-install the payout wont be that high.
3. Popads and propellerads both. Yeah I've stopped mobicow because it has low volume.
2. It's a pin submit. For just pay-per-install the payout wont be that high.
3. Popads and propellerads both. Yeah I've stopped mobicow because it has low volume.
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
UPDATE:-
Little update time for this journal. Have been busy setting up some new campaigns, trying some new traffic source with success and failures.
Day 8 (28-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 517
Clicks:- 35
CTR:- 6.77%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $4.40
Cost:- $1.43
ROI: 207.69%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1562
Clicks:- 316
CTR:- 19.98%
Conversions:- 2
Income:- $10.40
Cost:- $15.09
ROI: -38.08%
Had cut out all the non-performing and poor performing variables,so the traffic dropped almost about 50%. Not sure why the conversions were low.
Campaign 3:- Antivirus offer (New campaign with 2 landers)
Offer payout:- $4.60
Visits:- 634
Clicks:- 84
CTR:- 13.25%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $9.92
ROI: -100%
Cost is really high as the competition is high, with zero conversions. I had killed this campaign as my AM told me the EPC is very low for this offer. A very selection of offer.
Campaign 4:- App install offer (New campaign with 4 landers)
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 6218
Clicks:- 3201
CTR:- 51.48%
Conversions:- 28
Income:- $16.80
Cost:- $9.72
ROI: 72.84%
Very strange to see such a huge CTR but got a winner and that too without optimization and on day one. Lets see how it goes.
Day 9 (29-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 647
Clicks:- 48
CTR:- 7.42%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $1.53
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2118
Clicks:- 433
CTR:- 20.44%
Conversions:- 4
Income:- $20.80
Cost:- $16.18
ROI: 28.55%
Reorganized the campaign a bit to regain some of the traffic.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9656
Clicks:- 4893
CTR:- 50.67%
Conversions:- 44
Income:- $26.40
Cost:- $14.26
ROI: 85.13%
No changes.
Day 10 (30-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 988
Clicks:- 65
CTR:- 6.58%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $2.29
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2894
Clicks:- 649
CTR:- 22.43%
Conversions:- 9
Income:- $46.80
Cost:- $30.19
ROI: 55.02%
No changes.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9852
Clicks:- 5013
CTR:- 50.88%
Conversions:- 35
Income:- $21
Cost:- $14.80
ROI: 41.89%
No changes.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer(New campaign with 2 landers)
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 3163
Clicks:- 118
CTR:- 3.73%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $4.45
ROI: 73.78%
My AM told me that the offer EPC is low but still I choose it as traffic quality was low. I was split testing between direct linking and lading page, so the ctr was low.
Day 11 (01-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 607
Clicks:- 96
CTR:- 15.81%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $1.26
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1599
Clicks:- 362
CTR:- 23.22%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $5.20
Cost:- $13.62
ROI: -61.82%
I am noticing continuous drop in my traffic along with my conversions. Not sure what can be the reason.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 10038
Clicks:- 5279
CTR:- 52.59%
Conversions:- 35
Income:- $21
Cost:- $14.30
ROI: 48.85%
No changes yet.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2844
Clicks:- 409
CTR:- 14.38%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $5.55
ROI: 44.14%
Cutting out direct linking as no conversions came from it.
Day 12 (02-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Paused it for a while to figure out what went wrong.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2458
Clicks:- 506
CTR:- 20.59%
Conversions:- 7
Income:- $36.40
Cost:- $18.34
ROI: 98.47%
Made few adjustments along with bidding.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 10332
Clicks:- 5415
CTR:- 52.41%
Conversions:- 48
Income:- $28.80
Cost:- $13.13
ROI: 119.35%
Cutting out all low performing landers, just remaining with 1 lander.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2429
Clicks:- 362
CTR:- 14.90%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $3.64
ROI: 119.78%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 492
Clicks:- 193
CTR:- 31.10%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $5.2
Cost:- $5.37
ROI: -3.17%
I have created this to check out few things like being my own competitor make any difference or not. It is very much optimized as i have the data and also to check out what impact it has on the original campaign.
Summarized stats are as follows: (total duration 12 days )
Campaign 1 :-
Total income:- $62.80
Total cost:- $44.21
Total ROI: 42.05%
Campaign 2 :-
Total income:- $452.40
Total cost:- $276.57
Total ROI: 63.58%
Campaign 3 :-
Total income:- $0
Total cost:- $9.92
Total ROI: -100%
Campaign 4 :-
Total income:- $114.00
Total cost:- $66.21
Total ROI: 72.18%
Campaign 5:-
Total income:- $24
Total cost:- $13.64
Total ROI: 75.95%
Campaign 6 :-
Total income:- $5.20
Total cost:- $5.37
Total ROI: -3.17%
Little update time for this journal. Have been busy setting up some new campaigns, trying some new traffic source with success and failures.
Day 8 (28-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 517
Clicks:- 35
CTR:- 6.77%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $4.40
Cost:- $1.43
ROI: 207.69%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1562
Clicks:- 316
CTR:- 19.98%
Conversions:- 2
Income:- $10.40
Cost:- $15.09
ROI: -38.08%
Had cut out all the non-performing and poor performing variables,so the traffic dropped almost about 50%. Not sure why the conversions were low.
Campaign 3:- Antivirus offer (New campaign with 2 landers)
Offer payout:- $4.60
Visits:- 634
Clicks:- 84
CTR:- 13.25%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $9.92
ROI: -100%
Cost is really high as the competition is high, with zero conversions. I had killed this campaign as my AM told me the EPC is very low for this offer. A very selection of offer.
Campaign 4:- App install offer (New campaign with 4 landers)
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 6218
Clicks:- 3201
CTR:- 51.48%
Conversions:- 28
Income:- $16.80
Cost:- $9.72
ROI: 72.84%
Very strange to see such a huge CTR but got a winner and that too without optimization and on day one. Lets see how it goes.
Day 9 (29-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 647
Clicks:- 48
CTR:- 7.42%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $1.53
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2118
Clicks:- 433
CTR:- 20.44%
Conversions:- 4
Income:- $20.80
Cost:- $16.18
ROI: 28.55%
Reorganized the campaign a bit to regain some of the traffic.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9656
Clicks:- 4893
CTR:- 50.67%
Conversions:- 44
Income:- $26.40
Cost:- $14.26
ROI: 85.13%
No changes.
Day 10 (30-04-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 988
Clicks:- 65
CTR:- 6.58%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $2.29
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2894
Clicks:- 649
CTR:- 22.43%
Conversions:- 9
Income:- $46.80
Cost:- $30.19
ROI: 55.02%
No changes.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9852
Clicks:- 5013
CTR:- 50.88%
Conversions:- 35
Income:- $21
Cost:- $14.80
ROI: 41.89%
No changes.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer(New campaign with 2 landers)
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 3163
Clicks:- 118
CTR:- 3.73%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $4.45
ROI: 73.78%
My AM told me that the offer EPC is low but still I choose it as traffic quality was low. I was split testing between direct linking and lading page, so the ctr was low.
Day 11 (01-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Offer payout:- $4.40
Visits:- 607
Clicks:- 96
CTR:- 15.81%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $1.26
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1599
Clicks:- 362
CTR:- 23.22%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $5.20
Cost:- $13.62
ROI: -61.82%
I am noticing continuous drop in my traffic along with my conversions. Not sure what can be the reason.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 10038
Clicks:- 5279
CTR:- 52.59%
Conversions:- 35
Income:- $21
Cost:- $14.30
ROI: 48.85%
No changes yet.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2844
Clicks:- 409
CTR:- 14.38%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $5.55
ROI: 44.14%
Cutting out direct linking as no conversions came from it.
Day 12 (02-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer
Paused it for a while to figure out what went wrong.
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2458
Clicks:- 506
CTR:- 20.59%
Conversions:- 7
Income:- $36.40
Cost:- $18.34
ROI: 98.47%
Made few adjustments along with bidding.
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 10332
Clicks:- 5415
CTR:- 52.41%
Conversions:- 48
Income:- $28.80
Cost:- $13.13
ROI: 119.35%
Cutting out all low performing landers, just remaining with 1 lander.
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2429
Clicks:- 362
CTR:- 14.90%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $8
Cost:- $3.64
ROI: 119.78%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 492
Clicks:- 193
CTR:- 31.10%
Conversions:- 1
Income:- $5.2
Cost:- $5.37
ROI: -3.17%
I have created this to check out few things like being my own competitor make any difference or not. It is very much optimized as i have the data and also to check out what impact it has on the original campaign.
Summarized stats are as follows: (total duration 12 days )
Campaign 1 :-
Total income:- $62.80
Total cost:- $44.21
Total ROI: 42.05%
Campaign 2 :-
Total income:- $452.40
Total cost:- $276.57
Total ROI: 63.58%
Campaign 3 :-
Total income:- $0
Total cost:- $9.92
Total ROI: -100%
Campaign 4 :-
Total income:- $114.00
Total cost:- $66.21
Total ROI: 72.18%
Campaign 5:-
Total income:- $24
Total cost:- $13.64
Total ROI: 75.95%
Campaign 6 :-
Total income:- $5.20
Total cost:- $5.37
Total ROI: -3.17%
Keep the update coming , I love this
I am so happy that you have been able to draw a good plan for the things you want to achieve in the coming days. That is just how great marketers do start. All I can advice you is that do not hesitate asking questions on this forum. The forum has all levels of people in this field and therefore will help you a lot.
krass
Active Member
Awesome job, mate! I have a few questions if you don't mind:
1- are all the campaigns in different geos or all the same geos?
2- are all the campaigns in the same traffic source or different ones?
I've had a small bit of success in mobile, but I'm currently limited to one geo and two traffic sources. Hope to learn to expand my skillsets to different geos.
1- are all the campaigns in different geos or all the same geos?
2- are all the campaigns in the same traffic source or different ones?
I've had a small bit of success in mobile, but I'm currently limited to one geo and two traffic sources. Hope to learn to expand my skillsets to different geos.
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
Lol, I know that.
Thanks Krass
1. Make yourself expandable and flexible. All my campaigns are on different geos. I always, ask my AM, what offers are doing good on the network. I get a list from my AM along with EPC then I personally check each and every single offer's landing page and make my selection. Don't search for offers in a country, search for offers which are doing good.
2. I started out with popads and propellerads. Now i am planing to scale some of the profitable campaigns to popcash. Lets ee how it goes.
Ok now I have gone through your journal and its quite impressive. Now try different geos. Different geo campaign will give you different kind of experience.
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
UPDATE
Day 13 (03-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer Paused
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1675
Clicks:- 273
CTR:- 16.30%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $13.52
ROI: -100%
I have noticed that now i have more competitors than i used to have before resulting in low ctr and less traffic.
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 8013
Clicks:- 4209
CTR:- 52.53%
Conversions:- 36
Income:- $21.60
Cost:- $10.60
ROI: 103.77%
No changes
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2607
Clicks:- 369
CTR:- 14.15%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $3.34
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 584
Clicks:- 122
CTR:- 20.89%
Conversions:- 4
Income:- $20.80
Cost:- $6.42
ROI: 223.99%
Day 14 (04-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer Paused
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2710
Clicks:- 498
CTR:- 18.38%
Conversions:- 5
Income:- $26
Cost:- $23.66
ROI: 9.89%
No changes
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9173
Clicks:- 4879
CTR:- 53.19%
Conversions:- 50
Income:- $30
Cost:- $12.63
ROI: 137.53%
No changes
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2402
Clicks:- 306
CTR:- 12.74%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $3.35
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 424
Clicks:- 78
CTR:- 18.40%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $4.96
ROI: -100%
Day 13 (03-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer Paused
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 1675
Clicks:- 273
CTR:- 16.30%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $13.52
ROI: -100%
I have noticed that now i have more competitors than i used to have before resulting in low ctr and less traffic.
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 8013
Clicks:- 4209
CTR:- 52.53%
Conversions:- 36
Income:- $21.60
Cost:- $10.60
ROI: 103.77%
No changes
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2607
Clicks:- 369
CTR:- 14.15%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $3.34
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 584
Clicks:- 122
CTR:- 20.89%
Conversions:- 4
Income:- $20.80
Cost:- $6.42
ROI: 223.99%
Day 14 (04-05-2016)
Campaign 1:- sweeptakes offer Paused
Campaign 3:- Campaign closed
Campaign 2:- Antivirus offer
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 2710
Clicks:- 498
CTR:- 18.38%
Conversions:- 5
Income:- $26
Cost:- $23.66
ROI: 9.89%
No changes
Campaign 4:- App install offer
Offer payout:- $0.60
Visits:- 9173
Clicks:- 4879
CTR:- 53.19%
Conversions:- 50
Income:- $30
Cost:- $12.63
ROI: 137.53%
No changes
Campaign 5:- Pin Submit offer
Offer payout:- $8.00
Visits:- 2402
Clicks:- 306
CTR:- 12.74%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $3.35
ROI: -100%
No changes.
Campaign 6:- Duplicate of Camp 2(more optimized and test campaign)
Offer payout:- $5.20
Visits:- 424
Clicks:- 78
CTR:- 18.40%
Conversions:- 0
Income:- $0
Cost:- $4.96
ROI: -100%
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Are you planning to keep running those negative ROI campaigns?
Are you planning to keep running those negative ROI campaigns?
TrafficYoda
Active Member
Are all your landing pages made by you? Or did you ripped them?
internalsoul
Well-Known Member
Not likely. I have already paused them.
Not all of them. I made my own landers for campaigns 2 and 4 as the offers has lots of restrictions. Those are the simplest one page landers. Rest are ripped.It doesn't matter that much, if you using a ripped lander or your own because after a couple of days you can see your landers used by others with the help of intelligence tools around. When you are using a ripped lander, just make sure to remove all the lander protection and callbacks.
What's the lander protection and callbacks you're talking about , and how can I remove them ?
Thanks
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