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Yeah, I'm trying to be consistent, but I abandoned this thread few times just because of my budget. I've got pretty big mortgage and some loans. I wish I had more time and some good budget to test, but it is how it is. I'm pretty happy I know all the ins and outs of tech things and managed to find LPs with 10%+ click through rate. Now I think I need nothing else, but a good converting offer.This thread is dead, I think.
Unfortunately, focusing on the technical aspect is essential but you are missing the big picture.
More importantly, imho consistency is what you should first focus on as this thread has been abandoned several times.
Thanks Ahmed. I will!Great journey OP! keep us updated.
your doing well never give up your on the right pathUPDATE #11
In Update #10 I share my thoughts and quite few tech tips and tricks. By mistake I deleted content of that update, so if you haven't read it yet, please do This time I spent another $200 on testing sweepstakes offers with $1-$5 payout, but very last time, never again. Next thing to test are offers with higher payouts as I can say the cheaper sweepstakes simply don't work. I think I'll stick to sweepstake/voucher offers, but not SOI/DOI for sure. Probably CC or PIN submit with payout $10+.
I got few converting offers from my AM (tried new network), tested few of them and focus on just 1 best one and decided that I'll test absolutely everything I can: different angles, several new LPs, copy etc. and make it work. Interesting thing is that at the very beginning I've done 3 conversions and then it stopped: I've tested 27K views, 2700+ clicks, well over $100 spent, LP with up to 8% CTR (no auto-redirects!), and 17% CTR after I excluded WiFi traffic and tablet devices (again, no auto-redirects to the offer, user has to click through the page manually!). No results. I explained a visitor exactly what he needs to do on the offer page, I told them to check SPAM folder for the email with confirmation link etc. I really used my creativity best I could, even tried the offer page in iframe, so the user has an impression that he stays on the same domain. Nothing.
Interesting thing: at the very beginning when I started promoting the main offer, I got conversions with SOI funnel (I didn't have to play with confirm emails or anything). Then at the very end of my test, I went through the funnel pretending I'm a regular visitor for testing purposes (I used hidemyass VPN), I found the email in SPAM folder, clicked the confirmation link and conversion didn't take place. I repeated the process from another computer, different IP and still nothing. I don't have explanation for this: LP with up to 17% CTR, 2700+ clicks and only 3 conversion at the very beginning, then nothing even with better and better LPs. But I didn't treat it like a waste of money, but because of number of tests I've done here, I managed to find a landing page that converts up to 8% and with basic optimization even 17% (again: WiFi and tablets excluded, that's all). Now I'm going to use those landing pages for my future tests.
Sorry for complaining. I know it's nobody else's fault, but mine that I can't make the thing work. I'm not gonna give up and stop here, but will keep going until I find the converting offer! Anyway, here's few screenshots of my test:
Few days test of the main DOI offer (called SOI):
My best converting page without any optimization (all traffic: carrier AND Wifi, all devices) had about 8% CTR.
Second line (818 clicks) is Monetizer traffic.
Test of my best converting LP, but with carrier traffic only, no WiFi:
And then best converting LP with no WiFi traffic and no tablet devices:
One carrier's CTR is even 34% as you can see below!
Let me know what you think about all this. Thanks!
i've never tested DOI offers as i know people are too lazy to check the spam folder or even there emails.UPDATE #11
In Update #10 I share my thoughts and quite few tech tips and tricks. By mistake I deleted content of that update, so if you haven't read it yet, please do This time I spent another $200 on testing sweepstakes offers with $1-$5 payout, but very last time, never again. Next thing to test are offers with higher payouts as I can say the cheaper sweepstakes simply don't work. I think I'll stick to sweepstake/voucher offers, but not SOI/DOI for sure. Probably CC or PIN submit with payout $10+.
I got few converting offers from my AM (tried new network), tested few of them and focus on just 1 best one and decided that I'll test absolutely everything I can: different angles, several new LPs, copy etc. and make it work. Interesting thing is that at the very beginning I've done 3 conversions and then it stopped: I've tested 27K views, 2700+ clicks, well over $100 spent, LP with up to 8% CTR (no auto-redirects!), and 17% CTR after I excluded WiFi traffic and tablet devices (again, no auto-redirects to the offer, user has to click through the page manually!). No results. I explained a visitor exactly what he needs to do on the offer page, I told them to check SPAM folder for the email with confirmation link etc. I really used my creativity best I could, even tried the offer page in iframe, so the user has an impression that he stays on the same domain. Nothing.
Interesting thing: at the very beginning when I started promoting the main offer, I got conversions with SOI funnel (I didn't have to play with confirm emails or anything). Then at the very end of my test, I went through the funnel pretending I'm a regular visitor for testing purposes (I used hidemyass VPN), I found the email in SPAM folder, clicked the confirmation link and conversion didn't take place. I repeated the process from another computer, different IP and still nothing. I don't have explanation for this: LP with up to 17% CTR, 2700+ clicks and only 3 conversion at the very beginning, then nothing even with better and better LPs. But I didn't treat it like a waste of money, but because of number of tests I've done here, I managed to find a landing page that converts up to 8% and with basic optimization even 17% (again: WiFi and tablets excluded, that's all). Now I'm going to use those landing pages for my future tests.
Sorry for complaining. I know it's nobody else's fault, but mine that I can't make the thing work. I'm not gonna give up and stop here, but will keep going until I find the converting offer! Anyway, here's few screenshots of my test:
Few days test of the main DOI offer (called SOI):
My best converting page without any optimization (all traffic: carrier AND Wifi, all devices) had about 8% CTR.
Second line (818 clicks) is Monetizer traffic.
Test of my best converting LP, but with carrier traffic only, no WiFi:
And then best converting LP with no WiFi traffic and no tablet devices:
One carrier's CTR is even 34% as you can see below!
Let me know what you think about all this. Thanks!
Awesome, thanks for your advices @abdellahi, I appreciate it!i've never tested DOI offers as i know people are too lazy to check the spam folder or even there emails.
but i think having a good lander is a very good thing, but you should not stop A/B testing try new headlines,colors,CTA.... ; for the offer i think the one mistake you've made is not testing the offer on another network as your results looks good.
good luck
your welcome keep us updatedAwesome, thanks for your advices @abdellahi, I appreciate it!
I don't want to reveal the offer type I'm using, sorryGood results keep it up.
is this a cc sweepstakes offer ?.
(7*4.3)*(3*5) [5 days a week?]TIME
3 hours per day consistently, day in day out, no matter what.
I’ve got full time job and other duties like everybody else, so my time is very limited unfortunately.
Mr.Z, Feb 15, 2017
7 months -- I admire your persistence
(7*4.3)*(3*5) [5 days a week?]
451.5/hrs
I hope your time and money invested has shown you a good path.
Haha Yeah, but I didn't work on this for most of the time unfortunately. I've been working with mobile CPA on and off and had some long breaks like 10 and 5 weeks off marked on page 7 here and long 6 months break marked on page 8. Plus 6 weeks of pure learning at the beginning, so I took any action on 1st April 2017 really. If you deduct those 11 months break it's the same like I started on 1st of March 2018 So you first thought is pretty much accurate, I've been working on this for about 7 months reallyoh shit 2017!
(17*4.3)*(3*5)
1096.5/hrs